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Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Air Force Dumped Ashes of more troops...
How does this article relate to Antigone? Voice your opinion on this blog. Please be respectful to the opinions of others...What would be a way to solve the issue of the remains of the troops?
Well the article "Air Force dumped ashes of more troops, in Va.landfill" basically describes how hundreds of incinerated troops were dumped in a land fill and that everybody complained.In this case they were in the wrong because they had no permission to do that and every body got involved to try to fix the problem and i think they did. Now Antigone was in the wrong because she was ordered to not bury Polynices but in her case their was no exception, even if she was persistent. Many branches of government tried to trace all the bodies that were incinerated , but Antigone just went against the kings word just for what she thought was right.
This article relates to Antigone by the way people should be properly buried. Also how people go all the way for what they believe is right. Lastly, the article and Antigone are related by both ending up disposing loved ones a proper manner. A good way to solve the issue of the troop's remains would be by gathering all the ashes, and disposing them from an Air Force plane onto a decided location based on the troop's relatives.
The article that we read related to Antigone because the troops and Polyneices did not receive an appropriate burial. The troops and Polyneices were treated with no respect. They were treated as people of no importance or significance. When the Air Force dumped the remains in the landfill they showed us that they do not care about people that serve and risk their lives for this country. I personally think that placing the remains of the troops in landfills is very disrespectful to everyone, not only their families. Why would anyone not give respect to someone is working for our wellbeing? We could solve this problem by gathering the remains of the troops and placing them somewhere where they will be honored and recognized as the brave people they once were.
I am 100% on board with what you wrote. I agree with the fact that these were men and women who put out their own life for us, and yet for us to turn around and just dump them into a landfill isn't right.
The article relates to Antigone through its focus on burial and the conflict between those who don't agree on how to dispose of bodies. I honestly cannot say what would be a good solution to the issue of remaining troops, mainly because my thoughts on my own wishes for burial aren't really popular. Though, if I must I would suggest that the remains be cremated and used as fertilizer for beautiful plants and delicious fruits and vegetables, because it is continuing the cycle of life. Since that part was bound to happen anyways; particles being redistributed into the ground and onto plants, might as well have it showing understanding to this process and making it into something beautiful. And to be honest, having it sound this way makes me feel better about my own death in the future.
Good point, although I'm merely concerned with the idea of continuing the cycle regardless of whether or not our leftovers are any good. Though I have heard that cremated remains can be turned into diamond or pencils, which is much more beneficial than mere dust. However, it's up to whoever's deceased to figure out what's more sentimental. Before they actually die, of course.
The ashes could be mixed with food of some sort and eaten by the family to truly continue the circle of life. I think I remember Mr. Markstone telling us about a group of people in Tibet that bring their deceased loved one up to a mountain to be eaten by vultures and other scavengers so that the circle of life really is continued.
I see, i respect your opinion. I'm intrigued by the ability of human remains turning into pencils and diamonds. I'm curious to know if that's true.
Jorelle: That's what i'm a bit concerned about. The chance that families and animals might eat the plants, vegetables, and fruits that's mixed with human ashes.
I would say the relation between the article and Antigone is the burial rituals. In Antigone, we see that Antigone herself wants to give Polyneices a proper burial because of her great love for her brother and that is clearly seen in the article. The relatives of the article feel it necessary and only right if their deceased loved ones were buried in the right manner and with the utmost respect. Being that these people served in the military and put their life on the line is good enough of a reason to give them the proper burial they deserve. Why is it that when they're alive, we so freely show respect but when they're dead, we lose respect for them? That's the issue and it shouldn't be that way, ever. The way this should be handled is cremating the body and then putting into a jar type of thing and giving it to their family to do what they choose to do.
The article is related to Antigone in that both talk about having a proper burial. In the article it was said that troops' ashes were being dumped in a landfill. That is very disrespectful and wrong. They should have a proper burial, because they gave their lives for our country. In Antigone, she wants to have a proper burial for her brother Polyneices, but Creon says it's against the law and Polyneices is not allowed to have a proper burial. A way to solve the issue of the remains of the troops is to try and identify the remains. If the remains can be identified then the family should be informed so the troop can have a proper burial. It's hard for a family not knowing what happened their loved one. If the remains can not be identified, however, then they should still have a proper burial.
The article related to Antigone, because the article talked about how the military troops were given an unproper burial. In Antigone Polyneices wasn't given a proper burial. The families from the article, and the sister of polynieces fought for a proper burial, for there love ones. It was very disresfectful that the military troops were just thrown into the landfill, just like if they were wasted medicine. A good way that they could of solved the issue with the remaining troops, was just to simply have given them a proper burial even though some bodies couldn't be identified.
The main reason the Article relates to Antigone is the ideal of having a proper burial. Both Antigone and the Article emphasize on how wrong it is to not bury a human the proper way. It is especially wrong when the people have served the country or as in Antigone served for their king and not be buried. When a human is not buried it symbolizes the lack of respect towards that person. A proper burial gives respect and importance. When a person's ash is simply disposed into landfill it shows that the person is not worth anything. A person that serves for a country should be recognized in every aspect. Such as in Antigone, Antigone's brother should be recognized, whether he supported Creon or not. A human is not just a simple thing, it is something of great importance and shouldn't be thrown out as if it were worthless. A great improvement that the Air Force can do to properly dispose of the ashes, is to inform the families; Then simply send the ashes to them. It'll be less rude and the families will at least have something left of their relatives that served for the country.
Antigone is concerned about a proper burial for Polyneices because his body was just left to rot, and the Air force dumped remains of troops in the Virginia landfill. These decisions did not have the consent of a family member. Their deaths were all dishonored. The dumped remains in the landfill is the same as saying the people who served their country are trash, and the same goes for Polyneices who fought bravely like the troops. The proper way they should be buried is the way their families believe so because only their families know the way to honor their loved ones. For example, if the family wants to have a ceremony of some sort, then they should have a ceremony and buried with a memorial. If they are unclaimed, they should be cremated and have a memorial, not dumped in the sea.
"consent of a family member." I like how you made that connection because it is actually really important when you think about it. The family is left behind by their devastating death, so the least they could have is a respectful goodbye
I like your ideas. However, only certain troops are identified, a lot of them are so baddly injured that it is impossible to identify them. So wha wowuld you do with those bodies?
The article and Antigone both have concerns about the proper handling of the dead. Religious views and simply personal preferences can vary an individual's definition of "proper," but there should be an obvious line between respect and disrespect. The dumping of the ashes in a landfill might not be intentionally disrespectful, but the fact that the remains of hard-working men being disposed of like rotting garbage can offend many, especially the family of the deceased soldiers. Although Creon is explicitly disrespecting and even punishing Polyneices, the situations are similar. Regardless of religious views, the survived get comfort in keeping peaceful memories of their loved ones, so respectful handling of the dead should be observed. A possible way to solve the conflict is to fill out a form specifying the desired burial rites of the soldier, should he or she be killed, but the family and the soldier themselves wouldn't want to think about that so soon, so that might not be supported. It would be too expensive in time, space, and money to bury each soldier individually, so cremation would be the most practical. The best would probably be to spread the ashes out at sea. It is accepted in society as one way of a proper burial because it spreads throughout the world and can be regarded as peaceful because of the vastness and beauty of the sea.
The article and Antigone relate in that both concern the proper handling of a persons burial. In Antigone, her brother Polyneices is left out without a proper burial such as the ashes in the landfill. Everyone deserves a burial, because humans shouldn't be treated as if we are worthless or are trash. To resolve the issue we can either identify and ask the family if they wish to have the ashes or if they would like them to be put out somewhere like the ocean.
In the article it states that the ashes/other body parts that have been identified were given "appropriate disposition." They only put it out in the ocean if the remains weren't identified or claimed.
The article is related to Antigone because they both deal with proper burials. Soldiers, in the article, are Polyneices in Anigone because they faught for something they believed in, and after death they were given an unproper burial. Also, the wives of the soldiers where like Antigone because they wanted a proper burial for their loved ones. The article and Antigone both demonstrate the harshness and the insensitivity of those in control, when they or their family members are not harmed.
Oh yeah, and I would solve the issue of the remains of troops by making sure that there was a designated place where the ashes could be stored. This place should be able to be accessed by the family members of those inside.
Just reading the first paragraph of the article shows signs of disrespect to the troops who sacrificed their lives for our country. Relating this to Antigone, Antigone wanted a burial for her brother since during that time they had MAJOR beliefs about burials. Contrasting from Antigone the article states that troops were landfill of Virginia which was not notified by the family members, both differ from each other since Antigone thought that her brother really needed a ceremonial burial or at least a burial to show respect that he placed his own life at risk. Even though burials in Thebes became a law Antigone broke the law for the sake of her brother. Most burials present day are not as superstitious as of the Greeks, but only depends on the type of "religious" person you are. The idea of finding a solution in the article is being helped by asking the family whether or not they wish to keep the family members ashes or not which the Air Force will properly dispose of the remains.
This article relates to Antigone because Antigone the sister of Polyneicis wants Polyneicis to have a proper burial just like the family members of the soldiers. In my personal opinion I think the air force is doing wrong in not giving giving a proper burial because they served the country. I also think this issue can be taken care of by simply not sending out any troops to risk there lives.
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ReplyDeleteI'd be respectful, but haha you're lame Uriel jk. :p P.S. I'm second!
DeleteWell the article "Air Force dumped ashes of more troops, in Va.landfill" basically describes how hundreds of incinerated troops were dumped in a land fill and that everybody complained.In this case they were in the wrong because they had no permission to do that and every body got involved to try to fix the problem and i think they did. Now Antigone was in the wrong because she was ordered to not bury Polynices but in her case their was no exception, even if she was persistent. Many branches of government tried to trace all the bodies that were incinerated , but Antigone just went against the kings word just for what she thought was right.
DeleteThis article relates to Antigone by the way people should be properly buried. Also how people go all the way for what they believe is right. Lastly, the article and Antigone are related by both ending up disposing loved ones a proper manner. A good way to solve the issue of the troop's remains would be by gathering all the ashes, and disposing them from an Air Force plane onto a decided location based on the troop's relatives.
ReplyDeleteThat seems like a nice way of disposing them.
DeleteThe article that we read related to Antigone because the troops and Polyneices did not receive an appropriate burial. The troops and Polyneices were treated with no respect. They were treated as people of no importance or significance. When the Air Force dumped the remains in the landfill they showed us that they do not care about people that serve and risk their lives for this country. I personally think that placing the remains of the troops in landfills is very disrespectful to everyone, not only their families. Why would anyone not give respect to someone is working for our wellbeing? We could solve this problem by gathering the remains of the troops and placing them somewhere where they will be honored and recognized as the brave people they once were.
ReplyDeleteI am 100% on board with what you wrote. I agree with the fact that these were men and women who put out their own life for us, and yet for us to turn around and just dump them into a landfill isn't right.
DeleteThe article relates to Antigone through its focus on burial and the conflict between those who don't agree on how to dispose of bodies. I honestly cannot say what would be a good solution to the issue of remaining troops, mainly because my thoughts on my own wishes for burial aren't really popular. Though, if I must I would suggest that the remains be cremated and used as fertilizer for beautiful plants and delicious fruits and vegetables, because it is continuing the cycle of life. Since that part was bound to happen anyways; particles being redistributed into the ground and onto plants, might as well have it showing understanding to this process and making it into something beautiful. And to be honest, having it sound this way makes me feel better about my own death in the future.
ReplyDeleteIf the body is already cremated, the nutrients that the dead body will give would have been burnt away. You are, then, left with just dust.
DeleteGood point, although I'm merely concerned with the idea of continuing the cycle regardless of whether or not our leftovers are any good. Though I have heard that cremated remains can be turned into diamond or pencils, which is much more beneficial than mere dust. However, it's up to whoever's deceased to figure out what's more sentimental. Before they actually die, of course.
DeleteThe ashes could be mixed with food of some sort and eaten by the family to truly continue the circle of life. I think I remember Mr. Markstone telling us about a group of people in Tibet that bring their deceased loved one up to a mountain to be eaten by vultures and other scavengers so that the circle of life really is continued.
DeleteI see, i respect your opinion. I'm intrigued by the ability of human remains turning into pencils and diamonds. I'm curious to know if that's true.
DeleteJorelle: That's what i'm a bit concerned about. The chance that families and animals might eat the plants, vegetables, and fruits that's mixed with human ashes.
I would say the relation between the article and Antigone is the burial rituals. In Antigone, we see that Antigone herself wants to give Polyneices a proper burial because of her great love for her brother and that is clearly seen in the article. The relatives of the article feel it necessary and only right if their deceased loved ones were buried in the right manner and with the utmost respect. Being that these people served in the military and put their life on the line is good enough of a reason to give them the proper burial they deserve. Why is it that when they're alive, we so freely show respect but when they're dead, we lose respect for them? That's the issue and it shouldn't be that way, ever. The way this should be handled is cremating the body and then putting into a jar type of thing and giving it to their family to do what they choose to do.
ReplyDeleteThe article is related to Antigone in that both talk about having a proper burial. In the article it was said that troops' ashes were being dumped in a landfill. That is very disrespectful and wrong. They should have a proper burial, because they gave their lives for our country. In Antigone, she wants to have a proper burial for her brother Polyneices, but Creon says it's against the law and Polyneices is not allowed to have a proper burial. A way to solve the issue of the remains of the troops is to try and identify the remains. If the remains can be identified then the family should be informed so the troop can have a proper burial. It's hard for a family not knowing what happened their loved one. If the remains can not be identified, however, then they should still have a proper burial.
ReplyDeleteThe article related to Antigone, because the article talked about how the military troops were given an unproper burial. In Antigone Polyneices wasn't given a proper burial. The families from the article, and the sister of polynieces fought for a proper burial, for there love ones. It was very disresfectful that the military troops were just thrown into the landfill, just like if they were wasted medicine. A good way that they could of solved the issue with the remaining troops, was just to simply have given them a proper burial even though some bodies couldn't be identified.
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ReplyDeleteThe main reason the Article relates to Antigone is the ideal of having a proper burial. Both Antigone and the Article emphasize on how wrong it is to not bury a human the proper way. It is especially wrong when the people have served the country or as in Antigone served for their king and not be buried. When a human is not buried it symbolizes the lack of respect towards that person. A proper burial gives respect and importance. When a person's ash is simply disposed into landfill it shows that the person is not worth anything. A person that serves for a country should be recognized in every aspect. Such as in Antigone, Antigone's brother should be recognized, whether he supported Creon or not. A human is not just a simple thing, it is something of great importance and shouldn't be thrown out as if it were worthless. A great improvement that the Air Force can do to properly dispose of the ashes, is to inform the families; Then simply send the ashes to them. It'll be less rude and the families will at least have something left of their relatives that served for the country.
ReplyDeleteAntigone is concerned about a proper burial for Polyneices because his body was just left to rot, and the Air force dumped remains of troops in the Virginia landfill. These decisions did not have the consent of a family member. Their deaths were all dishonored. The dumped remains in the landfill is the same as saying the people who served their country are trash, and the same goes for Polyneices who fought bravely like the troops. The proper way they should be buried is the way their families believe so because only their families know the way to honor their loved ones. For example, if the family wants to have a ceremony of some sort, then they should have a ceremony and buried with a memorial. If they are unclaimed, they should be cremated and have a memorial, not dumped in the sea.
ReplyDelete"consent of a family member." I like how you made that connection because it is actually really important when you think about it. The family is left behind by their devastating death, so the least they could have is a respectful goodbye
DeleteI like your ideas. However, only certain troops are identified, a lot of them are so baddly injured that it is impossible to identify them. So wha wowuld you do with those bodies?
DeleteWouldn't DNA work to identify them in some way?
DeleteThe article and Antigone both have concerns about the proper handling of the dead. Religious views and simply personal preferences can vary an individual's definition of "proper," but there should be an obvious line between respect and disrespect. The dumping of the ashes in a landfill might not be intentionally disrespectful, but the fact that the remains of hard-working men being disposed of like rotting garbage can offend many, especially the family of the deceased soldiers. Although Creon is explicitly disrespecting and even punishing Polyneices, the situations are similar. Regardless of religious views, the survived get comfort in keeping peaceful memories of their loved ones, so respectful handling of the dead should be observed. A possible way to solve the conflict is to fill out a form specifying the desired burial rites of the soldier, should he or she be killed, but the family and the soldier themselves wouldn't want to think about that so soon, so that might not be supported. It would be too expensive in time, space, and money to bury each soldier individually, so cremation would be the most practical. The best would probably be to spread the ashes out at sea. It is accepted in society as one way of a proper burial because it spreads throughout the world and can be regarded as peaceful because of the vastness and beauty of the sea.
ReplyDeleteThe article and Antigone relate in that both concern the proper handling of a persons burial. In Antigone, her brother Polyneices is left out without a proper burial such as the ashes in the landfill. Everyone deserves a burial, because humans shouldn't be treated as if we are worthless or are trash. To resolve the issue we can either identify and ask the family if they wish to have the ashes or if they would like them to be put out somewhere like the ocean.
ReplyDeleteLakers got lucky with their W.
DeleteIn the article it states that the ashes/other body parts that have been identified were given "appropriate disposition." They only put it out in the ocean if the remains weren't identified or claimed.
The article is related to Antigone because they both deal with proper burials. Soldiers, in the article, are Polyneices in Anigone because they faught for something they believed in, and after death they were given an unproper burial. Also, the wives of the soldiers where like Antigone because they wanted a proper burial for their loved ones. The article and Antigone both demonstrate the harshness and the insensitivity of those in control, when they or their family members are not harmed.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, and I would solve the issue of the remains of troops by making sure that there was a designated place where the ashes could be stored. This place should be able to be accessed by the family members of those inside.
DeleteJust reading the first paragraph of the article shows signs of disrespect to the troops who sacrificed their lives for our country. Relating this to Antigone, Antigone wanted a burial for her brother since during that time they had MAJOR beliefs about burials. Contrasting from Antigone the article states that troops were landfill of Virginia which was not notified by the family members, both differ from each other since Antigone thought that her brother really needed a ceremonial burial or at least a burial to show respect that he placed his own life at risk. Even though burials in Thebes became a law Antigone broke the law for the sake of her brother. Most burials present day are not as superstitious as of the Greeks, but only depends on the type of "religious" person you are. The idea of finding a solution in the article is being helped by asking the family whether or not they wish to keep the family members ashes or not which the Air Force will properly dispose of the remains.
ReplyDeleteThis article relates to Antigone because Antigone the sister of Polyneicis wants Polyneicis to have a proper burial just like the family members of the soldiers. In my personal opinion I think the air force is doing wrong in not giving giving a proper burial because they served the country. I also think this issue can be taken care of by simply not sending out any troops to risk there lives.
ReplyDelete